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Georgia (Anxiety)

Georgia (Anxiety)

Welcome to the winning ugly podcast, a place where we are real, raw, entertaining, energizing, and encouraging come experience, real conversations that go deep and relationships that extend for the media to overcome testing times. We can't continue to keep our trials and tragic stories to ourselves. The people you will hear from are facing your ugly, stepping out of their comfort zone and sharing their victory. Storms are guarantee in life and when they come, we want to be right here building you up and empowering you to win ugly. So, Hey Georgia, thanks for joining us on the winning ugly podcast. Great

to have you on. We're very excited. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. We're going to start off with a few ice breaker questions. Okay. Do you have any hidden talents? I do. I mean sound excited about that, like you have several weeks. Well, you want to narrow it down to one one hidden Dallas. So you guys already know this, but I have done voiceovers before, so you know, my voice is famous basically. So there's one of my talents talking. You are, you do have a nice voice. Yes, I'm glad you think that. Um, also I aspire to be Tara Lipinski anyway, know who Terry Lubinski. She an ice skater? Yeah. Wait, Olympics, Winter Olympics. The story. This isn't the one that got hit in the Shin or no, no, no. You're thinking about Tonya Harding. It all runs together from Tanya. No, not Tanya. Um, Tara, Tara Lipinski.

Michelle Kwan, that era. Michelle Kwan. Yes. So Tara Lipinski go give her a follow on Instagram. You'll find out very quickly who she is. She posts all of her old videos because that's basically how she exists. Do you practice this in your home? I like to go ice skating. I'm never by myself. I don't like people to know that I'm aspiring to be an ice skater. So you are a dream is to be a professional ice skater? Yes. Wow. I will never happen. I can still dream that you keep inside. Yes. Yes. Which goes to the next question. What do people think is weird about you? Probably that I want to be Tara Lipinski. Um, and I'm 28 and I think that I'm going to be a professional ice skater. But you can ice skate pretty good. Decent. That's so cool. Yeah, that's good. Great down. I've been knowing you for almost eight years and I never knew that.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not many people know. They don't know that about me. I also love to write, um, and I love to edit people's papers, which probably comes from my mom being an English teacher. That's very cool. Um, and so people, I have to be sure to preface every time I get asked to edit a paper or anything by a friend that I'm not mean because I make people's papers bleed a lot. Yeah, that is okay. Yeah. So you can be brutal. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Um, well good. It's, yeah. So that, that is pretty weird. But you like to grade papers or edit paint or something like that? Well, this, this question, I know you're going to love, but what's the last place you vacationed? Oh, we'll, last place I went was Italy, specifically Florence, Italy. It's my favorite, but I also went to Venice and Tuscany while I was there.

Pretty legit. So you're a big Italian fan. Oh yeah. Can you speak Italian a little bit, but please don't ask me just to say one thing. Chow or motto. Vinay. There you go. Molto Bene, we'll name means very good, right? Yeah. Very good. Good accent. Okay. We're going to move into some fun questions, some either or questions. Okay. All right. Hard copy or digital digital for sure. So lot easier, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what happened to good old books? Like actually holding a book? Uh, I can't go get into digital. What you're talking about. Books. Oh, books. Hard copy. For sure. I thought you just meant in general. Like wild. It is 2019 most things are good I guess, but with books. Yes. Books. I prefer a hard copy. I like to smell the book right in it. Exactly. Yeah. Good. Okay. Facebook or Instagram? Instagram. Absolutely. 100% love the pictures on Instagram is cool. I like Instagram to your coffee. Coffee. Coffee is awesome. Coffee specifically. Stumptown. Coffee's my favorite stump town. What does stop town? It's out of Seattle, I think. Um, but it's just phenomenal coffee.

Okay.

Is Italian coffee good? Yes, but they drink espresso. Oh, I like this recipe. Yeah. I normally get a double espresso. Want to get coffee. Wow, that's aggressive. I'm an aggressive get, it's impressive. Beach bomber snow bunny.

B o a beach bum. I'm a beach bum for sure. I'm actually going to the beach and a few days my grandparents have always had a place at the beach and so I, I love the beach. It's like my place of solitude, the waves phone call or text, text. I know. I think phone calls have lost its, everybody takes this loss now. Well thanks. Thanks for just going at it with some ice breaker questions so they're easy, right? Yeah. Pretty easy to be nervous. Yeah. Okay. Well I'm your host Trish and I have my husband and cohost Emery. Great to be on guys. Thank you guys for listening. He loves to encourage me to embrace change and the one story that comes to mind is when he up and told me while he is on the phone that we are moving to another state. I remember the story.

We probably remember it differently like most married couples, but that's okay. Go ahead. Continue with the story. Yeah. Well he told me while he is on the phone that we are moving to another state. I have to leave tonight, meaning he had to leave tonight and you need to pack this whole place and we're moving into a apartment that is the size of four shoe boxes. Yeah. This is true. That's about right. Yeah. Yeah. I love change. For me it's, it's, it's awesome. Yeah. And for us it actually works, but a lot of people, it makes them sweater freak out. But for me it works. So I do encourage people to embrace change and um, as often as you can because you never know what's going to be on the other side. That's right. You're a down to earth. So that helps me out a lot.

I am. I am very, the more the voice of reason. Absolutely. Yeah. So this podcast was birthed due to my desire to hear stories from my friends are oftentimes strangers and hear how they overcome trials in this life and they stand victorious. I don't know about you, but I need to be encouraged on a daily basis. And so sit back and take heart and you will win ugly and you're a good encourager. Also. I love to encourage people, I really do like to encourage people because I just want to help them and hear them and let them have their own voice and um, yeah. Well thank you. So Georgia again, thank you for joining us. And um, I think we'd been friends for roughly eight years. Yeah, I think you're right. Do you remember where we met? Yes, we were picking up trash together. Great trash pickers.

I knew in that moment you picked up that, that all crinkle water bottle. That was it. That's all. I mean you were standing with your husband. I think I only can see like your nose and like part of your eyes. It really is really cold. It was so we were picking up trash and that is where we met. It was part of an outreach, which we had so much fun. How would the scribe Georgia as someone who is super down to Earth, she's very organized and very planned. Interesting. Yeah, you are. You're very planned, but you also give time to people. So the most important. It's a good balance. And you always make time for everyone as Emory said, like you always have time. And even though yes, you are a planner, you always still make time. You always have an open ear and you always have good advice.

That's good to know. So you, yes. Thank you for being very welcoming. And she likes pizza. A lot of pizza alive. You match, you are a big Foodie, but your Goto is pizza. Definitely the dream about pizza sometimes. Actually. Yeah, probably August you're working out or running or whatever. I'm assuming you work out at some point. I think about pizza. That's the end goal. It's on the last mile. Mile three. Just think about that big all pepperoni on that pizza. It's all over. It's like the dangling carrot. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. It's Pepperoni. Pizza is awesome. Yeah, it is two fun facts about Georgia that she doesn't know we're going to bring up. So this should be really fun.

She got a tattoo in the Philippines. That's true. And she fainted and it's true. And she did this while her husband was in another town. Oh yes. In the Philippines, in the Philippines. It's almost an alliteration. It is where we're missing one, but we're close. What were you thinking? Well, I had always wanted to get a tattoo and this is going to sound so crazy, but a tattoo artist just literally showed up where we were and was like, hey, does anybody want to get tattooed? So I figured it was probably a good time. Wow. Yeah. My husband wasn't there but I knew he would be okay with it cause we had talked about it before, but then I didn't realize that I was going to pass out. I hadn't eaten much and like a week. So that probably had something to do with it as a very warm where you were at a very warm, it was like over a hundred degrees. Yes and humid. Yes, it was worth it. But you successfully got the tattoo. You are here to talk about I am here. Good job. Yes guys, job for taking that risk. I know. It's very cool. Second thing, you know that she wants to be an ice skater, but she is also an amazing dancer. That's true. Yes, I do love dancing. Like I didn't know about that, that we talked about that.

Do you know Emory night? Only? Ha. We each have like two left feet. CanNot Dance. Only time we've ever danced was at our wedding. Aw. That basically sounds like my husband Aaron does not dance very well. We let's me do all the latency. We want to dance and we want to learn, but I just have no rhythm and I can't hear. You should start with ballroom. So we should start with ballroom. Why? By getting boring. Because they're really good about teaching. All Barroom is associated with one, two, three or one, two, three, one, two, three and then they teach you the steps, the exact steps, and you just repeat those things. See, I can do step aerobics. That's a beginning point. I think so, yeah. Especially for a couple if you want to dance together. Okay. Start with the watts or a slow ballroom.

Well, a lot of you probably know, but Trish and I lived in South America, so Colombians love to dance. That's right. They do. So every time we would have a party or something at our house, it was inevitable always that I would leave the living room. I would come back into delivering or maybe five minutes later and all of my furniture had been stacked up on one side and they made a complete dance floor out of my living room. Always. Every party they love and we still don't this.

Do you guys need to bring me into Columbia? The next love? He would love it. I mean an amazing place. Amazing country. Yeah. I would love if they have a lot of rhythm, a lot of great music that we do not have. So yes, they do have a lot of great music. A lot of, even the kids, they have perfect rhythm. It's just so beautiful and eloquent on. It's inspiring, but it's also soul crushing. I mean we have to be honest in some cultures though, dancing is just a part of the culture, like anytime, but I mean for me, and I think in America in general, it's more from a training perspective, not as many of our little subcultures here really have that in their bones. But you would think we've picked it up because both of our parents actually go out dancing. Oh that's funny. And we don't dance. Step Up. It fell off somewhere. We missed it. That's okay. Yes. Well Georgia, we are looking forward to hearing your story, um, of how you had to win ugly through anxiety.

Yeah. Thank you for coming on and sharing that. Cause I know that's a, that's a big deal to do that and to, to have this space. But I think like anything, when you go through something, God, God will put you through something. But it's important when you come on the other side to be able to share that with people, to encourage people. So I really appreciate you coming on.

Yeah. Thanks for having me and letting me share. So Georgia, I know that we've been friends for some time and you've told me that this kind of started in high school for you and when,

when you were in high school, what were some of those moments, what it looked like for you? How did it start? Where there anything certain things that brought this on or um, right. Well I think a lot of it. Um, I had a lot of precursors when I was in high school, um, with anxiety and depression and I didn't, I didn't really know that that's what it was and no one in my family, um, I guess had really gone through anything like that before or had never recognize it as that. And so they identify with

my signals. Um, so there were years where I would, um, I gained like 30 to 40 pounds within like two months, like something very unhealthy and then I would lose all of it and more. And just like things like that, that are not normal for a high schooler. Um, and then also I just dealt with a lot of, um, just insecurities. I dance. So I was competitively dancing. I was on the dance team. And so there's a certain image you have to uphold. And um, there were just a lot of the, a lot of that going on. So, um, so while I was in high school, I think they were just also a lot of expectations put upon me, whether that was academically in extracurriculars. Um, I was always, and from a young age I was always wanting to just be every, everything, miss everything, be in Sga and be the dance team captain while also maintaining a 4.0 GPA.

And it's very competitive. Ambitious, yes. Yes, very competitive. Probably dangerously so. But I, I think all of it just kind of, it was, it was simmering in those moments when I was in high school. So then I go into college and I went to a larger public university. Um, and so there were a lot of things I was exposed to. I was very sheltered growing up and so I was exposed. I was given freedom to a lot of different things I didn't know anything about before I got into college. And so I would say that, you know, even though my relationship with the Lord was very strong, at one point going into college, I just kind of stopped following him and I just really kind of did my own thing and I just wanted freedom. Right? Um, I just wanted to use my freewill the way I wanted to use it.

And it ended up catching up to me and there was one day in college and it was so significant that I can tell you each time, cm of basically the next few months. So I'm February 23rd, 2011 was the first turning point. And that was the day I had been in a relationship with this guy that was going nowhere. He was not anyone I ever wanted to spend my life with. Um, I just, I was just in a relationship with him and uh, I knew it wasn't right. And so I went to church that night and the pastor, I kid you not, I mean it, every time I tell this story, someone says it gives them chills up their spine. But I had been telling my best friend about it. I'm just not sure what I'm doing in this relationship and I'm just going to keep seeing where it goes.

And the pastor got up on the stage and said, before I start this sermon, I have to say this, someone in this room is in a relationship that they shouldn't be in and that they don't want to be in. And if that's you, you need to leave. Get your attention. Yeah. Yeah. So my best friend was sitting beside me, thank goodness, because I thought I would have thought I was going crazy and she looked at me and said, I think you knew what you need to do now. Yeah. You like, did you hear that? Wow. Save. Okay. Exactly. Yes. That's exactly what we did. Uh, did you? Okay. And so I immediately was your guy friend with you at this point? No, he was not with me. He actually was going to come and couldn't come last minute. That would've been awkward. Yeah. He's talking about me.

He's talking about, so I immediately after the service called him, broke up with him. Wow. It was very quick. Um, I just knew that was what I had to do exactly. A month later on March 23rd, 2011, my best

friend and roommates, um, mom, who I was very, very close to, had a cerebral hemorrhage in 72 hours later died. If I had not broken up with my boyfriend, I would have not spent that month with her that I got. Um, which was invaluable. But timing is incredible. Yeah, it's crazy. And so in those, in that moment, I just, what was happening, you know, um, during that time I was trying to just figure out a way to deal with my depression and anxiety. Um, in college I was just giving myself, you know, I was, I was drinking and I was doing things to just make myself feel better.

That's what I was going to ask. Like what were the things that you were trying to do to make yourself feel better? So you were going out and just, I was going out constantly, almost every night, drinking a lot. Um, and that's how I dealt with it. You knew exactly that you had an issue or might have an issue? Yeah, I thought I, I thought I might, but, and I had had, I had had some panic attacks in college. That's when they started. Um, and at first I thought I was having a heart attack and then thought, wow, 20 years old, there's, there's really no way I could be having a heart attack. And then I went and saw a doctor and they told me it was stress. Um, yeah. And so it, it kind of built up until that point, when that all that happened on February 23rd and all of these events started to transpire.

Um, it was my, I had to be vulnerable and I think it was the first time I had to, I was forced into vulnerability. And so after my best friend's mom died, like that was, that was a turning point in my brain. And I mean, in everything that was going on, um, and I knew I had to do something. Um, after that and it exactly, well, it wasn't exactly a month. It was April 27th, 2011 was when the tornado in Tuscaloosa hit. And that's when I met my husband Aaron. Um, which was funny because I was absolutely not in a place to meet anyone. I was done with guys. I was like, I've got too much to keep up with. I'm trying to take care of my friend. I'm trying to get through college and figure out where my head is. You know, I've been dealing with things all the wrong way.

You don't hear a tornado love story. Yes, it is. It's tornadic torn. It was an f five five relationship. Yes. That's cool, Huh? Yeah. So anyway, but that's, um, that was so, that was interesting because meeting my husband, I don't think that I would have been open to even talking to my husband or entertaining the thought of dating him if I wasn't in that place of vulnerability of like, my wounds were just completely split open in every way and all these things from high school, College, all building up to this moment in time. So I'm glad you met Erin, but I kind of want to back up a little bit. So when you were in college and you said you were out there partying, hanging out with friends and doing things, or are you very aware, were you embarrassed? Were you seeking to change? Like what, what was, what were you feeling in your heart do during those moments?

I wasn't seeking to change if I'm being completely honest. Um, I was surrounding myself with people that were doing the same things as me. Right? So like I didn't, it didn't seem like a bad thing in that moment because that's what everyone else around me was doing. And I think we were all kind of, I mean, we were all dealing with things and that's how we dealt with it. Um, so I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I wasn't seeking to change because that's the only thing that was making me feel better. And I didn't know how else to feel better. I really didn't. Okay. And, yeah, I mean, I can see how, you know, when you're in it and you're not really, you know, looking out, but you're looking down, you can miss so many things. Um, that's why Emory always tells me, you know, when we're in the situation, he said, you can always keep your head down and miss all the opportunities are the blessings, but if you pick your head up, you can see out there, you know?

Yeah, absolutely. Especially college age, that's such a transitional, complicated years. Right, right. Well, and it also, that helps me remember that, you know, just going back to what you were asking, the, the

guy that I was dating really was the, when I started dating him at the time I ended was kind of, he was associated with all of this behavior. He was the one that kind of introduced me to all these different parties and these people that partied all the time, and like he was the one kind of tied to that. So when I let go of him, I, that's when I really started letting go of that lifestyle. And I think that's, you could let go. Right, right. That's a great way to put it. And I think the Lord really opened up some, I guess really just exposed me to what I had been doing.

Just really exposed my wounds and made me confront what was going on. That's awesome. And would you say, I know you said you met Aaron, but was he the one that the specific person that really helped you through this or you know, I don't think in the moment that I realized it, but like all these years, looking back on it, I would say yes, he's the one that made me see value in myself. And I think that's where it all went wrong. I didn't see myself as someone worthy of being loved by anyone, by God, by a future husband, by my friends even. I just, I felt like I had done so many bad things. I'd done things all the wrong way. I haven't, I didn't deal with my problems the way that they should be dealt with. And so I just felt unlovable. And I think, I think that was, that was the perfect time to meet him.

Right. The Lord knew what he was doing. And so he, Aaron really, he is a strong believer and always, you know, he was when I met him and he really made me see value in myself so that I could start to figure out how to build bill, not life back, um, to, uh, a place that was healthy. Urine is very kind and um, he does point you in the right direction. So that's awesome. Go Erin. Ooh, yeah, shut up. Um, so standing here today, um, I'm sure we all struggle with some of our, you know, wounds from the past, but do you still struggle with anxiety today? Yes, absolutely. So when I graduated from college, um, and in 2011, I, I went into the corporate world immediately and basically I've been in the corporate world ever since then. And so I think, um, I had, I worked a job, uh, I guess it was last year and that's when my anxiety really came to a head.

So I had been, I just kept going in and out of stressful corporate world situations and just, um, whether it was being treated unfairly, being overworked or a combination of both of those things. And I think a lot of people can probably relate to that, that work in the corporate world. It's, it's hard in corporate America, especially I'm speaking of Italy, you know, when you go to other countries you really see that. So I had been in this situation, um, where I was just, I was not comfortable in the position I was in. I was doing, it wasn't that I didn't feel like I was doing a good job, I just knew something wasn't right. Um, and all of a sudden, one day in August, I, I choked and I thought it was one of those things, oh I didn't chew my food up. Well, whatever.

It was scary and Aaron was with me and so he, you know, he saw it all happen. We had a little cry about it cause it was that scary, but we thought it was just a coincidence and moved on the situation. Yes, exactly. And then a few months later I was at a work luncheon and it happened again and I thought, oh, okay, I've never choked in my life. And now I've choked twice in the two months. And so a few months later I was at another luncheon and I had, I could, I couldn't swallow my food. And I was thinking, of course, I think anyone would think this is medical, right? There's something wrong with my throat or my esophagus or something's not working properly. So I immediately went to go see all these doctors and everyone, it's probably weird to say, but all the doctors kept saying everything looks perfect.

And that's the worst thing I could have heard because I couldn't, I couldn't swallow. I couldn't eat in a matter of five or six days, I lost five pounds. And that's a lot for someone as short as me probably scared to eat. Yes, exactly. That's what I was going to Zach to. Yes. When I'm eating, I'm eating several times. Exactly. Exactly. But also too, I mean, where are you telling your friends? Where are you speaking out to

people? Um, because we're you thinking, am I crazy? I mean, what, what was it in that moment? I mean, what, what was happening? Yeah. I mean, I, so I told a few of my close friends, but I really, I did think that I kind of thought like, what's wrong with me? Like why can't, why are all these doctors doing all these extensive tests? And all of them say there's nothing wrong.

Everything looks perfect. Not even that everything looks good, everything looks perfect. There is absolutely nothing wrong. And so, and I would look at each of them and say, no, you're wrong. There's something very wrong. So for I guess the past two years now, I've been going almost two years, I've been going to therapy. Which side note, I think everyone should do cause the healthiest people. Yes, the healthiest people go to therapy. Not The sickest. And so I had never been to therapy. It's not something that really anyone around me has ever done before. And so that was one of the best things I could've done. But in those moments I had been. So not only was my job hard, but we had been talking about him therapy, some really hard things that I never told anyone. Not even Aaron, just things that I had buried deep, deep, deep down.

So you're unpacking a lot of things. Yes. Yes. And so my brain was just confused to say the least. And so I went to my therapist, it was new year's Day and I will always, I'll never forget what she did and I'll always thank her. It was new year's Day and she was with her family and I called her and I was like, you know me, you know I wouldn't call you unless this was an emergency. I need to see you right now. I need to talk to you. And so because that was basically my last resort, you know, that is really brave of you because you, I mean you would never like want to do that to someone. So you really must have really needed, like truly needed to speak to her. Right, right. Just have been really, cause I hadn't at that point I hadn't eaten a real meal, like a full balanced meal in probably three weeks at that point.

Oh. If you think three weeks times three meals a day, that's a lot. And you are a big foodie because y'all go out to restaurants all the time. I mean, I love, or a Yelp elite. What was, yes. Um, so that must've been so tough. It was three solid weeks. It was really hard. And every meal I would sit down with my husband and it, it sounds so dramatic, but it really was this serious we had, we would sit down and he would pray for me before I ate that I wouldn't choke and then I could swallow my food. And typically I would get about three bites in and just lose it. I'd start crying. I was so hungry. I was famished. I couldn't swallow. I just couldn't, I couldn't swallow. Very helpless feeling. Oh, I'm assuming. Oh, it was awful. It was awful. And the doctors were saying you were fine, so they weren't putting you on any medication, nothing.

Swallow tests or anything. Well, I did solid test and they all, yeah, yeah. And everything looked good so they, they didn't, they didn't move forward with anything. They didn't give me any treatment. They didn't eve even give me like exercises or anything I could do for your physiology. Is that a word physically, physically, the physiology of your throat that we're making that happen then? Yes. Okay. That's fine. Yeah, it was all fine. I had gone to see a gastro doctor so he could watch me swallow and watch it go into my stomach and see if it, you know, if there was anything that came back up that was causing me not to swallow. I went to an ENT doctor where they stuck all these things through my nose, down into my throat with a camera. I mean they did everything. They ran all these tests, all this blood work and everything came back clear.

And so new year's Day I go and meet with my therapist and we talk for two hours and she's just asking me question after question after question and we get to the last five minutes of the session. I didn't know it was the last five minutes, but at that point she, cause we basically just had an unlimited amount of hours to talk. She was like, we, we've got to talk through this and I'm going to figure out what is going

on. And she just looked at me and said, you, you have to give yourself permission to quit your job. Wow. And I didn't realize that at the moment, but she said, you know, a lot of this is the things you've been bringing up with me, but you, you don't like to quit on things. You stick with things and you are not giving yourself permission to quit this job and you hate it and you can't handle it, but you won't let yourself quit.

And so you fast healthy for you. Right. Exactly. I'm can't eat anything. I can't eat pizza. So I'm pretty mad about that. And so, so yeah. So she said, you need to give yourself permission to quit. And the second I walked out of her office, just a huge burden was lifted. And she, we talked about it. She said, what are you going to go eat after? You know, we talk. And so I told her I'm going to go eat pizza. I'm not kidding. Yes. And uh, and so I went and Erin got us a pizza and I ate a slice of pizza. And I know this all sounds so crazy, but it was the biggest deal cause I hadn't, I hadn't been able to eat anything. It was basically smoothies for the crying while eating the pizza. Yes, exactly. It's like it's back. And so, so from that moment, um, I mean all of that to say anxiety is still, I mean it's something that I deal with on a regular basis, but I think a lot of, going back to high school when I was talking about all the way up to this point, I think I realize that I've got to be in a more open state to accept that I'm, this is something I'm going to deal with for the rest of my life and I have to put myself in more healthy situations moving forward.

That's so good that you brought that up because I would say that happened to me within the last five years. I was in, uh, I was in a job that I really didn't like, but it was an amazing job. It was great benefits. And I thought I was having a heart attack. My heart was beating my pupils, pupils were dilated. I can hear my heartbeat in my ear and I was just like, what's going on? And I told him, I was like, I think I'm having a heart attack. And so I went to the doctor and he was like, he rent every task and he was like, you are perfectly fine. Like, actually you were beyond healthy, like your blood work. Everything is perfect. And I'm, he's like, and so he was kind of having a counseling session with me in the office and it all balled down to, I was stressed out at work and he's like, no job is worth you losing your life over.

And so, um, I highly suggest you quit. And I went home that day and told Emory and he was like, girl, put your two weeks. And it's not worth it. And it was like a breath of fresh air. I didn't go and eat pizza after that, but it was such a freeing moment to moment as if he'd said it was the animal as a pizza moment to just talk to someone about like, you know, you think something like that is so simple, but it affects every part of our body in different ways and anxiety affects people differently. And um, that is true. Like we do, I'm sure it's going to come up constantly, but you know how to deal with it. Right. Um, well and I think, and I think, you know,

it's interesting how our brain can, you know, some mental dealings. That's not what I wanted to say. Just how our brain processes things can come out in a physical way. They can, they show themselves in a physical way, whereas you think it would come out in hormones, emotion, that kind of thing. It actually like your body physically responds to your mental state, which I found really interesting was going through that physical symptoms from something that's emotional. Right. And his weird, scary.

What do you think you've learned through, I mean, I know you said it started in high school and then into college and even down to today, but what have you learned and do you think it's really, it was really necessary to mold you into who you are today? Yeah, I think it has. I mean, I think, you know,

I think especially this past year, I mean I've been through a lot since those high school years up until today even, you know, even throughout college, I think there was a lot, especially that last part of college that was talking about. So what I learned, what I learned in the past year is just that I can, I can

overcome anything and find victory in the Lord. Just not a great feeling. It is, it's a great feeling. And I think, um, I felt like I was all alone in it. And I think just knowing that the Lord was my companion and this, um, and then he's always going to be there with me as I'm working through this. Um, and, and I don't have to, I don't have to feel alone. I don't have to be in fear. I think that's where the enemy really, you know, an anxiety especially like that his anxiety essentially is fear of the unknown and tries to isolate you. Exactly. Exactly. And so getting to share my story like this and sharing it with my friends has really like, it's just me. It's changed who I am and how I deal with things. And so I feel like there's so much victory in just sharing and being willing to open up about what we're struggling with. The whole point of winning ugly. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. It's good. I knew, I always feel so capable when I get through those ugly moments. Right. It's such an empowering feeling. Right?

Oh look at, um, kind of trials as we are always moldable and we're always moving towards two. We're never mature and complete, you know, so we're always striving to overcome something and think different things are going to always come up. And I think it's good to have those challenges because it makes us stronger and it helps to encourage others as well. Right. So, um, so you are sharing with others. Thank you so much. Um, so Georgia, I know as we stand today, um, how do you control your anxiety if it comes back in these moments?

Right. Well, I think the first thing I always do is just remember to breathe just to, just to be in the moment for a second and then step back and look at what's going on. Um, and then I really try to just not be afraid, um, to realize that most likely whatever I'm anxious about is not life or death. And so I just have to step back and really evaluate what's going on and then just a really know that I'm being protected and loved and I'm worthy of something much greater than anything that's around me that I can see. Uh, and, and I think that's, that gives me a lot of comfort to know that I have a refuge like that.

Yeah. That's really healthy way to think about it, but to keep things in perspective that it's not that serious. Yeah. May seem like in the moment, but right. It's going to be okay. Right off physical things where you maybe go for a walk. Do you call a friend? Do you go for a run? I don't know. Yeah,

eat pizza. Eat Pizza. Yeah. Eating pizza always helps. But if I'm having a swallowing issue, not in so much, not, um,

typically I will at least it depends on the environment. So if I were who was in a work, something that was making me stress, I would most likely just walk outside. It's amazing what just a little bit of vitamin D can do for you girl. Yes. Um, but I also do like to run, I like to exercise because that's the one time I feel like, and maybe other anxious people can relate to this, I don't know. But it, it, it makes me focus on running and then my mind, because running is such a mundane task. Right. I just have to put one foot in front of another and then, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then so when I'm just running, I can, yeah, I have, I have the space to think about and process things that are going on in my world. And so really, I mean sometimes I don't like running. Like when the weather is not great or when the pollens awful. But I feel that, um, when I run it really just, it lets me release. It's my way of releasing

Alexandra to that, except for me it's squats and dead lifts. Oh Wow. Oh Wow. Can I know the feeling? Yeah, it is. I'm a rag right there. There we go. Especially like some of them more intense workouts, like you were saying, they're so hard. That's really all you can focus on. Right. So it sort of clears out everything else. Right. So I agree. Yeah, I like it. Clean and press well polished, clean and press. But I

take, I like to clean and you'd like to clean after I've cleaned, which must mean not, which must mean I'm a terrible cleaner. I think that's a husband and wife thing because he's a married. Yes. That means you're married. That's great to know, man. Well, Georgia, it thank you so much for sharing with us. And um,

and you no longer, I think are defined by your anxiety, but you embrace it and you learn from it. And, um, so you really have painted a beautiful picture for us and just overcoming. And so thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing because I know that's, that's tough too, to be able to open up, especially in a space like this. So thank you so much. Thanks for having me and letting me share. Thank you to our audience for listening. And I hope you are encouraged to go out today and share your yes, thanks guys. Up when the ugly moments come, remember that light shines brightest in the dark. Love radiates brightest among hate life stance. Most full league against death.

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