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No, I'm just kidding. That's such a bad idea. What do you want to talk about? I'm really excited about the topic tonight. Well let's talk about how much of a nightmare it's been to do apartment shopping and also what's really a nightmare is when someone takes your headlight off and cuts the wires. Oh this just happened, Jean? Yes. It just happened to her. When you say she's okay, a g sends me a text and she goes, oh my gosh, I can't believe this just happened. And it's a picture of her headlight in it. I see it and I'm like am I head? I barely look at it cause I'm like this view pit bitch got in a wreck again or hit something or what ever. But it turns out someone took the headlight off and cut the cord for the line literally. So I don't know how cars work.

So you have to explain to a turn signal light, not the headlights. Oh that would be so much worse in the front. In the front. It had already been broken. I like the, the light had popped out and was broken from like the bolts that that held the light onto the car and so that, but it was still connected to the wires and so the light would still work. It still came on, it's still blinked. It was just not sealed anymore to the actual car. So someone popped in it that would had been taped, that had been all taped together. Someone ripped the tape off, took the wires, like held the light up. I mean this, it's like I can see it in my head, like held the wires up, cut all three of them at the same length and just took my fucking turn signal light and I just have to wonder. It's one of two things I'm like, either no one else around here drives a Pontiac Aztec except maybe like one other person. So they know that the parts are hard to come by. So they're like, oh, let me, I know where this other Pontiac is. Let me steal this. This Turner wasn't though. It was downtown. Yeah. But then my second is like, wow, I really pissed someone off and I don't know who it was, but I like really have made someone mad. Okay.

Hi. Welcome back to MPP. I'm a g Zachary t you making fun of me? Yeah. Well tonight we're going to talk about all things southern. Oh God, I'm so excited. I'm really excited to do this. I, when you gave me this topic I was like, are you fucking joking? No, I think it's going to be great. I think there's a lot of people who don't know what it's like to live southern. Yeah. And have this idea in their mind and watch southern charm. I think we're probably like even living in the south, I think probably going to over dramatize

things a little bit like just a little bit. Tonight ain't of dramatize none. I am excited to talk about like kind of like debunk or like confirm accuracies and the ones that I disagree with you on. So I just want to say that. Okay. So I want to start with kind of a little, it's not really like a game, but it's, it's just kind of, we're kind of deciding what's real and what's not about these different like and low B stereotype parts because we're using southern living. Yeah, that's what I pulled this up. My son, I don't have any recipes I get from southern living. My pound cake recipe is from southern living. I've never had a, I got, I've got to make, yes, I've got to make one soon. I bought a kitchen aid mixer just for this reason or I remember this actually.

Yeah. Okay. So the first one, it's an article office. Southern living. The first one is, oh, in the articles called annoying things. Movies always get wrong about the south. Yes. In case you want to look for accents, I mean, yeah, there is an accident. What do you mean? People told me all the time. I don't have a southern accent and I feel like I do sometimes, like when I say y'all maybe a little, so Brady, I doesn't even saw that southern. I don't know. Like I do not, I don't think I have an accent whatsoever. I actually think sometimes you sound northern. Northern. Okay. When I lived in England for a year. Yeah. That was a humble brag. I just want to say that everyone all the time, it's like, Oh wow, I love your accent. Are you from Texas? And I'm like, Bitch, I love Alabama.

And sometimes they'd be like, where's that? And I'm like, oh, it's so weird to me because what our friend from England knew everything about Alabama. It was abstaining more than I knew about Alabama. But I think there's an accent. I mean, yeah. And there are sometimes from, I mean my grandma says Warsh or my nanny. Oh my mom. All too. She sounds pretty southern to you. She'll say Warsh I don't have an accent. And My, my like both great grandfathers don't really have an accent. Dad didn't have one, mom didn't have one. However, both of my grandmothers, one of them's from Anniston, Alabama, and that's where I'm from. One of them from already Meridian, Mississippi. Wow. So I got, I guess I grew up with kind of, and it really, from what I understand wasn't even as thick as it was when they were younger. Like I didn't really even get a full taste of what the accents were actually like. But my, I remember growing up my mom had

this thick, like all I can think about is like this thick southern like steel magnolia, like Louisiana, which is so weird cause she's from Mississippi. But like I always think about places like with the gaps as being like Mississippi or Louisiana or something like that where it's at very drawn out, very slow kind of. It's interesting to me but I mean all of my family's from either kind of more up north there or more Midwest. So next one

I love air conditioning. So some of my like, okay by the way, when I did live in England there was no ac and like some days like it doesn't really, it didn't really get that hot while I was there cause I was in the winter. But some days I was like, bitch I wish I had some air conditioning. Like, even in the fucking winter, I was like, fuck, Ugh, this is too much. I feel, and like I have friends who are from different states in the north, you know, I think

they don't have any standing, like what's conserving energy? I think that, I don't think that's really what those are. This article is talking about, I think it's like, in my mind, this is kind of the whole, like you got the big fans out on the poor to neurol drinking sweet tea and like everything was very light and open in the south and like air conditioning wasn't really, yeah, sorry. No, you're good. Yeah, you're right. We do have air conditioning. We don't just have ceiling fans. We have air conditioning as well. And no, as far as kind of these like, you know, the notebook or stuff that, you know, years or whatever,

read some of this because it says they, uh, it's understandable to show characters sweating while they're outside, but for some reason they never stopped sweating since they're inside. Well, I, I've seen that before. I'm like, bitch, since like what, when did the AC come out? The seventies Oh, before that. Probably right when it got like really popular. Well they see they used to do the ice in front of the fans. What? Oh yeah. You didn't ice in front of a fan that's supposed to keep you cool. It blows cool air through the ice. What's the next one? Hunting. Fishing and pickup trucks. It says, we know the country music songs don't have this case ever written is no help in this argument but really not every person, not even every man who lives in south as a hunting, fishing pickup truck driving person. Actually though that's kind of like rare where we are, you know? I mean I see it often. Remember

though we are in the city and to me once you kind of get outside the realms of like Birmingham or Montgomery or maybe even Florence, like places like that. It is middle of nowhere. Truck driving and hunting fish. I mean there is nothing else. There's like no in between. You're either much in the city or surrounding suburbs or you are out in [inaudible]

in the middle of nowhere. Well, I mean, even where I'm from and like where my parents are from or my mom is from, that's like the middle of nowhere to me. But it's not, it's still not something I saw. Like I'll, you know a ton.

I saw it even growing up where I grew up. No it was, it was different because it was as if that kind of behavior isn't already comical but like to see these rich boys try and emulate this kind of like red neck or poor or whatever. That's it. That's an interesting point is has I

like growing up, I, you know, I didn't grow up with a lot of money or whatever, but like I had some friends who did, who they loved hunting and fishing and stuff like that and like that was their thing, but they gave this whole redneck [inaudible] I don't have a lot of money kind of vibe, you know what I mean?

It's just like, no, you go hunting because daddy owns the hunting camp, but like God dammit owns the land. Okay. So the next one is towns and cities. So small town America is stereotypically set in the south. And honestly it's with good reason. We absolutely adore our small towns and the people who make them great. Plenty of one traffic light towns across the south. But they're also big thriving cities. Would you believe it? There's even skyscrapers. So you know, as far as kind of cities go in the south to me having been other places, other regions in the u s it does not compare like as city in the south doesn't compare to a city basically in any other region of the u s yeah, Bitch.

I grew up in a very small town and I thought Birmingham was a big city and there's parts of me that thinks it's a little big city, but I mean,

so I mean some of this is kind of accurate actually. I mean, again, comparatively speaking, cities in the south are still nothing like other areas, but at the same time they are the, the small towns you get, I mean they're really small and can be, you know, like a thousand people to a community. Like it's there. They can be very, very small. Okay. So my graduating class, how many was yours? 27. Okay. Well No, bitch, you went through your last year. What was your, you asked for other real school you went to for 11 years or however many. Uh, let's see. It would have been probably when 900 kids. Yeah. My graduating class was like a hundred. I mean technically my graduating class was 27 but you grew up in a bigger town. I did. You know what I mean? So

I did not. And I don't know. I think, um, and even so, even though it was a small town, I, I don't think it was all that bad. And I do think it's always funny that these movies go ahead. Um, I don't think it was all that bad, cause I remember like I would find people who thought like me and who were more like me. And I think a lot of times small towns get a bad rap because everyone's so bigoted and blah, blah. But it's, no, that's not true. I think that's another stereotype is people think small towns are bigoted. I think it, mm.

I think it is a stereotype. I think it's a very generalist stereotype, but you have to also look at the population of a lot of small southern towns and typically kind of like where they are politically or or the housing communities or the education in that area. Yeah.

Um, because I have been to small towns that had been completely thriving and it's been, I mean guess where I'm from I guess because there is a university right there. I think it is different when it's a college town. Yeah, I'm educated definitely. But I just think, you know, cause I've been, this is small towns man, they're scary. But I've met some people who have come from the small towns who seem very scary and who seemed very politically different from me, but they are very loving, accepting of everybody you mean? Yeah. You know, you have to take everything with a grain of salt. You have to see it yourself. Exactly. So it's a very broad state. She or her, Paul, Paul, y'all and y'all ride around in Mississippi

together. We did do that recently and really small towns and went to see cattle. I'm so sorry that was that. In so everyone can see voluntary choice going to this stock yard, by the way, which is what's the next one? Gender roles.

Just saying. Basically just like accents were expected to be on this list. I have the antiquated gender roles are two southern women are some of the strongest women in the world. And our fates are not up to the men in our lives. Like they were in the past that then women are far from helpless to stop portraying them as so

well, I mean that, I don't think that represents the south so much anymore. Yeah. I really don't think you could say that about any region. Yeah. I feel like it's, you know, it's, I think it makes for a good movie. Yeah, man. You know, like it's, uh, I wouldn't say that that's an accurate representation of girls or women in this. Let me tell you, cause I send you those posts from the Reddit, uh, men writing women. Mm. And it is so hilarious and everyone needs to check it out today. It's a reddit where they take screenshots of men riding women and it's so they're all the same. And it's so funny and I think that's just something Hollywood likes to do. Oh for sure. If it's not written by a woman or a person of color, you're probably going to get the same stories over and over. I agreed. Yeah. Is that all you

damn bitch. I've seen your Facebook. I know you got more more to say about it. I'm just saying it is actually kind of frustrating and again this is a ridiculous complaint to have, but it is very frustrating to watch films and see kind of the women portrayed as these very almost like easily manipulated, submissive. Of course.

Very frustrating. That's how people view women.

It's so bizarre to me because I think about all of the women that I grew up with and they were such strong and it sounds so cheesy, but like such strong independent women, even if like shit was crumbling around them or the guy, they were both were shit like it. There was never a moment where I viewed them as weak or you know, he's like submissive people and it's just sometimes things happen and, and people go through a lot, but it's always so funny to watch these movies and oftentimes it is like movies where the, the scenery is based out of the south. Like that's, that's, you know where the movie is located. Like that does suck because it's, it's, it's really not accurate.

Yeah, I agree. Well this was a fun game. I like that. Yeah.

You always have like these original ideas like the personality one in this one. You like them. Yeah. Kudos to you. Thank you.

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Well, thanks for playing that game. You're welcome. It was fun.

And then it's kind of, this all ties together because this is obviously what our, our main theme is about today. And I had a couple of different, um,

there our main topic again

being sad growing up, growing up in the south. What is growing up growing up in the south. Okay. Sorry, I just wanted to make sure, cause you know, talk about being southern and all that and make sure it's all encompassing though. Just southern thing. Yes. Southern. Um, but picked a few that I kinda just want to go down. Um, ones that I thought were good topics in general but also were topics that specifically pertain to the south, things that were either staples or, or impact the south in a lot of ways. And um, I kind of want to start with generational differences in southerners. So my question to you is kind of thinking generationally, like thinking about your grandparents and your parents and, um, the older ones in your life, what was it like growing up in the south? What were they like?

Well my, I have a different experience because my family, you know, we're all poor in that kind of thing. And it was very different from what I hear from a lot of southern families, especially ones with more money. Cause you know, there's just, there's this expectation like, oh my kid has to go to Auburn because I went to Auburn and my dad went to Auburn and that kind of thing. I never experienced that. Like the southern legacy, the southern tradition kind of thing. I think, you know, it also, my family is very open minded because they've seen the world and lived in many different places and interacted with a lot of different people and owned restaurants and stuff like that. So they've seen a lot of the world that I guess, you know, stereotypically southern people wouldn't, you know, people, they, you know, my family isn't really that racist or homophobic or that kind of thing. Right. And they were very accepting of me. Everybody was. But it was, you know, and that's different cause I have, I have friends who have come out and their parents have disowned them and they come from very wealthy, educated backgrounds. But I think part of their expectation of their kids and carrying on a legacy being gay is on a part of that.

Right. Obviously the south has been kind of a hub for a lot of really uncomfortable and just inappropriate things that have happened in history. You know, we're, we're typically a red zone as far as you know, politically. And um, I oftentimes will try to find people that don't really fit that stereotype in the south. The ones that I surround myself with, you know, I try very hard, but my family, my mom was very liberal. She's, she was very, but she's also not from here. Um, but she's very, it was very liberal and very open minded and she was not, like you said, like a lot of my friend's parents either, which really in truly the majority of my friends parents were very educated and very openminded as well. But I did have friends who, whose parents were kind of what aligns with that sort of old southern money mentality. Um, and that was always really, it was interesting growing up, you know, kind of with the dynamic of my household and then seeing the way these kids were raised and always was never, there was never a moment where I was like, oh, is mom doing this the wrong way? I'm like, what? That was wrong.

What about your dad? Because you've, I know you've mentioned to me before how liberal and open minded she was, but you've never really talked about your dad.

So my dad was kind of whatever he felt like being that month. Um, I think, I think in ways, my dad is very open minded actually. Um, he's definitely not, I would not consider him a closed off or hateful human being. Um, but I, I don't know, cause like my dad's parents and the rest of the cannon, the Dad's side of my family are polar opposite of what I grew up around. I mean, my uncle is a state rep. He's a republican

state rep. Um, I'm sorry. Yeah. Um, you know, they were all, all in favor of this abortion bill. That's, you know, Yuck. It's ridiculous that that even has the possibility of passing, but, right.

Something, you've also mentioned it are your grandparents

[inaudible] yeah. So mine are you comfortable talking about? Yeah, totally. My mom's parents were, um, I don't know that I would necessarily call my mom's parents hateful or closed minded. Specifically my grandfather, um, my grandmother when she was alive, it was a little bit of a different story. Um, but she grew up very old south, went to old miss was in a sorority. You wanted you to be in a Sorority, what it means to be in a sorority. It was, but after she died, he kind of took on this like bizarre libertarian, Ron Swanson, like you have this weird thing going on, but he like socially is very liberal, which is weird to me.

Well, my, um, mom's parents were very racist, homophobic, the nine yards. Um, I don't think it was really my grandma so much as my grandfather. He's passed away and they aren't, he was not that great of a person. So, you know, leave your life. But, uh,

I think he or she

it a certain way for him or whatever. And cause I remember when my mom told her finally that I was like, everybody knew except for her, you know what I mean? Like I'm out on Facebook, I'm about to get married and that kind of stuff. And she was very accepting of it. I'm like, Gosh, I can't believe people think this way or thought this way. I'm just like, where we are today. It's just crazy. My Dad's parents, it just

doesn't make sense. My Dad's parents are like borderline religious extremists and um, they, I don't know that I could ever sit at the table and have a political conversation with them. I really don't like that would end very, very poorly. And it's not about me not wanting to make myself heard. It's about, you know, you reached this point, especially with, and that was kind of my whole point in this generational thing where you, you, you kind of communicate and your, you realize that with older generations there's not going to be a change of heart. Not after a certain point and that sucks and that's, I wish that like, and history can attest to that honestly. I mean it's just, you know, it's part of it, but it, it's, I will say that whole kind of white southern man stereotype it is the, or the white kind of old man stereotype in the south is, it's a very real thing.

It is. When are we going to talk about something happy like food. We're best talking about food. Oh, thank God. But we're not, we're not done with this. Okay. Never mind. We'll just talk about food. Well, I had that racism and government underneath the generational thing, but I guess we kind of covered all of them. Okay. Let's just, let's cover it real quick. Okay. Alabama's in great Georges and Mississippi's and everyone in the south government is racist. That's all we need to say. Boom. We've covered it. It's true. Why are you looking at me? Okay. Who, who is coming out with these abortion bills? I'm not disagreeing with you, is coming out with these bills for stand your ground but specifically targeted against black people. I'm not disagreeing with you. Why people shooting black people? Why are you looking at me like that? Then I just wasn't ready for that.

That's it. That's all we got to say. Well, you've got to write an essay about this shit. The south is racist, but again, you have to think about who's in office right now and who has the majority of the power. Yeah, but our governments were racist before he gained power. Oh totally. And you know it's not, it's

not just him like it's not, no. I mean specifically who has power like in Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi and Louisiana and Ms. Hey ivy, fuck you bitch. Okay, ivy only has power over this day. I'm just saying, fuck that bitch. She's a woman and she voted for that. Like bruise of a bill. Like what the fuck this? I'm just like, I don't understand it. She's a woman and she agreed with all these white men. I wonder how many times she's had the Bible beaten

down her throat and that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Or is it because she's getting money? That's my question. Also what part of Southern American food is waffle house. Bitch, we didn't even say that. We're going to talk about food now we're going to talk about food in case in the future. We do talk about food. Let's talk about waffle house. Okay, so I want to talk about food in the south now. Great Cause I've been waiting for it. Well you know like farming and and agriculture is a huge thing. Yes. Farmer's Tan. Yes. It's not quite as talking about but yes it's included I guess. But you know that's like a huge part also of southern cuisine of like any old southern cuisine, you know. I mean it's, you have soul food and just kind of like straight home down cooking like are down home.

I said home down tone down is another way to describe that. Also I have to say it's very fried. It's so fried but it's so good. Oh my God, I love Fried Food and chocolate are my weaknesses. Truly Mac and cheese, I mean fried have literally fucking Mac and cheese for every goddamn fried Mac and cheese. I would eat every day. I know I just eat magnet. It doesn't even have, I mean fried is great, but like it doesn't. So for this segment, did you, uh, research, uh, southern food throughout history? No. Okay. If y'all haven't realized we were not a researched podcast, I just want to let it, I just want everyone to be aware of that. We just talk about what it was like when we were growing up. Bitch, I love fried squash. Fried Squash casserole. Anything. Oh yes. Chicken casserole is good. Chicken Crescent Rolls and Oh my God.

Have you ever had chicken rice rolls? I haven't, I don't even have chicken crescent rolls. Oh my God. But I have had pigs in a blanket bitch. Um, biscuits and gravy. Hush puppies. Um, any sort of fried fish, fried chicken. Um, oh God. What else is there? You got chick collards. You got your turn. Why are we talking about Gut Jakarta? The Greens. You got you. I love you so much. I just, I feel like there's definitely a huge difference and other parts of the country like out west and some northern cities, like they try so hard to eat healthy. You know what I mean? Like ways the way, way more than here. Like California,

they all want to eat so healthy. I'm like, bitch, fuck, everything's Vegan. Everything's Vegan or vegetarian. Anyone eating the way they want to eat? How you want the thing. That's it, honey. That's it. Also, if you're going to be Vegan, don't tell me every fucking second. Okay Bitch. We all know who I'm talking about. Don't tell me ever say, oh, I'm Vegan. I can't have that. Jack Brown's getting Fried Oreos. I Love Fried Oreos, but I had mad routed Jack browns. I've had better any funnel cake. Hey, oh corn dogs, you and I love Cornell. I love, we talk about corn dog. Sometimes we do sometimes medications. I feel like southern food is just so indulgent. It's kind of the zero fucks given like this is going to probably kill me faster than cigarettes would, but I'm going to do it anyway. So just like the pies and the key can pee, can buy. I feel like that's truly nobody. We're in the south. It's peak. Can call home. I don't know. I say Pecan, it's the can.

Well, I'm just, I don't know. I love it. And I'm, when I lived in England for a year, I missed it. I missed, I always with food, I bought, by the way, I lost 35 pounds after my grandmother died. I lost a shit ton of weight. We stopped eating her cooking. Yeah. Like she'd give us like the portions and it'd be like three people. It refers to every drink. People say that, but I've never, if I'm saying I want a coke, I'm, I want a co honey. My family, it was, can I get a coke? And they'll bring you a mountain dew. Like I swear to God.

Yeah. I swear you don't know. I think about about the south, like the food and the drinks. I think about, um, mint juleps sweet teas. I think sweet teas. Peaches.

Yeah.

Is this weird? No, you're just, you were more north than I was, right, or no, wait, no where I was wrong. I was wondering, you're close to children county, peaches in Birmingham. You know, the peaches are very like a staple. Where here in Georgia, it's a massive thing. Oh, I forgot about Georgia and the real housewives of Atlanta. They hold up a peach in their promo. You dumb ass. I know. I didn't think about it. We weren't really into fruit bitch. We were into what is real. We were into our meats. I think about peaches and things. I think my sweet tea, oh, I want to think about peaches. I think about ass ultimately stop laughing. Ultimately yes. I do think that food in the south means something. What it means in other areas. Like it's definitely, it's also in the south, like it's a really big deal to sit around the table and eat with your family and fried green tomatoes.

You know the movie. Yeah, the food. But that's, it's a comfort here. Like food is very, it's not, I mean it's definitely a balance in life for food to be for enjoyment, but also ultimately for survival and I feel like the south definitely takes it a step further with the enjoyment part of it isn't an Alabama always lasts on the healthiest, whatever I think were like either Mississippi or Alabama. We're always had that. Always that. Who has the most diabetes? Two of them has the most obese, like the highest obesity population. Who is the fattest bitch? Mississippi or Alabama or something. It's crazy. Like when I want them to Ohio, I gotta tell you the Midwest to me wasn't that different than down here as far as kind of the personalities and like, and I was in a college town and so it was partying and stuff like that, but I did not see anyone as big as some of the people I see in this out.

Some people here are chunky and I'm a chunky bitch. It's just so bizarre because anywhere I go, or even any bigger like massive cities in the south, like Nashville or Atlanta, Alabama, we just, just in breaking news from our producer, Alabama is number five and obesity's number one. West Virginia is number one in obesity, Iowa, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Iowa. Wow. Apparently people in the Midwest are fat. Well, you know what, at least I hope they're happy. If they're fat, I hope they're happy because I was having an interesting conversation with someone at work a couple days ago and he and his wife were trying to go paleo and I was like, oh, I heard that this went really well cause I, I'm friends with his wife too. And she and I talked about it and, um, he goes, yeah, it went well for her. And I was like, well, what does that mean?

It's like, could you not stick with it? Like, he's like, no, I mean, if I'm going to die, I want to be able to die doing something I like to do. And if that means eating, then so be it. And I was like, fair fucking enough. What southern movies make you think about southern food? Oh, fried green tomatoes, actually steel magnolias um, you know, they're at that fair and she's like putting all the food and the thing and, um, they, yes. And the arm cake, um, sweet of Alabama. Not as much, at least with the food part, that definitely was reminiscent of like, yeah, but it, summer is in Alabama. I've never seen that movie. Sweet. Um, Alabama. Oh it's, um, it's a tear. Jerker it's a good one. Um, I'm trying to think of others. Other movies. Oh my God, this doesn't, it's somewhat makes me think about the food, but more so like just the south in general. But there was a lot of food and it would take place in Louisiana and it was, um, the divine secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood. Have you ever seen [inaudible]

well that's a long title.

It's such a good moving. I, you know, I also think,

I wish there were more movies about like living in the south and like struggling with food. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wish that was more of a,

a topic

cause you know, I feel like we're fed all of these images from Hollywood in New York and all of these things are that you need to look like this, you need to look like that. But then you get here,

here and there's so much temptation. You know what I mean?
I felt like that's something that a lot of people would identify with here.

Temptation as far as food and eating. Oh, you're saying struggling with food, not struggling for food. I heard you struggling for food bearing. So next kind of debunking, I guess explaining, describing would be cities versus small towns in the south, but basically I kind of want to set up what we'll call them, big cities actually look like in the south. They're not, I wouldn't necessarily call this southern region a like thriving them. Like we don't have these massive cities. I mean, I don't know. Atlanta's pretty big. Nashville is pretty big, but I mean, when I think of when I think like when someone says, think of a big city, one of them in the south isn't there? No, those aren't coming to mind. I think of like New York or even like Pittsburgh, you know, something like that. I don't ever think of Atlanta or Nashville or Birmingham or Chattanooga or Montgomery, you know?

I just don't, I mean occasionally like, but even like, even when someone's like, Oh, what about Miami? I'm like, I don't ever consider that area of Florida to be truly southern. Like that's not what I think of. Like you be like, oh, New Orleans. And I'm like, well, New Orleans is not a big city, first of all. And second of all, these are just not like there is no comparing cities in the south to like cities and other regions. There's really not, I like it that way, but I think that a lot of this stems from like historical shit that went down, things that have happened throughout the past that have left the in the dust because the south chose for it to be that way. You know? I think that has a big part to do with it.

You know, I like living in a city that's not terribly big, you know? Yeah. And tons of Ebony and traffic's bad, but try to drive in Atlanta like that's bad. Like that's bad. You know what I mean? So, yeah,

I dunno. I just, I, I do like, I think sometimes people come to Birmingham from other countries or other states or other regions and they're expecting it to be kind of this bigger city than it is because Birmingham is one of the biggest cities in the southeast and it's just not, and small towns, it was big to me it is, but it's really not big. And when you think about kind of like small towns in Alabama specifically, at least, kind of like growing up here. I mean small towns are just metal and nowhere, like once you get outside of any semblance of a city, it's just, there's just nothing. It's either farmland or it's, you know, it's like kind of run down areas, that kind of thing. Impoverished areas. Like there's just nothing,

I feel so bad for gays who have to use grinder in small towns. Yeah, that sucks. Can you just imagine looking for Dick and no one's near you in a 10 mile radius that would suck. Or Tinder, when you, what did you just imagine you trying to date in a small town? I mean, I feel like Birmingham's mom, well I've

seen your tender on my apple TV and I've seen a lot of men that you could choose from swipe right and swipe left. Your options would be far less than a small town.

Yeah. So I think kind of to wrap it up, to summarize, wrap it up. There are some bizarre kind of intricacies about the south, but I don't, I don't think that everyone's racist. I don't think that everyone's sexist. I don't think everyone's homophobic. I, you know, there are some really great things to be said about the south. Um, you know, I do find that southerners are typically, yeah,

pretty hospitable. Um, that's a big thing down here. But there's a difference. I just want to point this out from being at polite and nice quote unquote and not being a good person.

I mean that like, it's very, things are very kind of the holding the door for it. Yeah. But I, I don't even mean like, like family is massive down here gathering for like big meals and big events and, and kind of going all out, you know, for, for dinners and, and that can like a food, you know, and family are very interconnected and food and friends are varying interconnected. That's a big thing down here. Um, you know, I and your, whoever dies in your, someone you've never even met before says, I'm so sorry about your whoever and you're like, bitch, who the fuck did you, what did you go out of the ceiling? Bitch? Yeah. I don't know. You Bitch, but thanks for condolences. Yeah, exactly. My racist grandfather, I appreciate it. I think I see what you're saying. It's a very, you know, unique place in that regard.

I do think that the south, and I don't mean this in the way it's going to come out, but it is a little slower paced. Oh yeah. This place is nice sometimes. It's definitely nice to be able to kind of like leisurely live your life, but at the same time it's, it's borderline depressing because they see so many like motivated people, other places, and I feel very stagnant when, when in the south. So it's, it's a real thing, but [inaudible] I feel like I would be stressed the fuck out in New York City. Oh yeah. I want to be, I want to take shit slow. I need a balance. I need an in between.

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